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Release
Robert Segall <roseg(at)apsis.ch>
2003-09-22 14:40:11 [ FULL ]
Hi everybody. We would like to release 1.5 by the end of the month with all 
the changes described in the thread about -current. If anybody came up with 
some problems please let us know before that date so we can fix them in time.

Many thanks.[...]

Re: Release
"Tom M. Schenkenberg" <tom(at)ibuildings.nl>
2003-09-22 14:49:45 [ FULL ]
Robert Segall schreef het volgende op 22-9-2003 14:40:[...]

Hi,
I'm new to this list. Is there an archive of this list available 
somewhere so i can catch up?

Thanks,
   Tom.[...]

Re: Release
Jason Vasquez <jason(at)obiwan.homelinux.org>
2003-09-22 17:25:06 [ FULL ]
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Is there any interest in including a patch for WebDAV support with
differing URL schemes/protocols? (Or maybe something like this has already 
gone in)?

If so, I can work that up -- if not, I'll hold off and maintain it as a 
separate patch for interested parties.

- -jason


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Re: Release
Robert Segall <roseg(at)apsis.ch>
2003-09-22 18:17:12 [ FULL ]
On Monday 22 September 2003 17:25, you wrote:[...]

We would be interested in seeing what exactly is missing - we have had 
reports that Subversion is working fine for example (and it uses WebDAV quite 
heavily). A more detailed description would be good...

In any case I suggest we keep it till after 1.5 - let's try and concentrate 
on that for the coming week...[...]

Re: Release
Robert Segall <roseg(at)apsis.ch>
2003-09-22 18:18:15 [ FULL ]
On Monday 22 September 2003 14:49, you wrote:[...]

Not right off. We use ezmlm and that allows retrieving specific messages by 
id, but there is no officially published archive.[...]

Re: Release
Jason Vasquez <jason(at)obiwan.homelinux.org>
2003-09-22 20:09:07 [ FULL ]
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Robert Segall wrote:[...]

This is in reference to the conversation you and I had before this mailing
list was in place concerning DAV's COPY and DELETE functions (I believe
those are the two), which specify a Destination: header -- it requires an
absolute URI.  Pound obviously doesn't translate that right now, so the
DAV server bombs when the backend virtual hosts don't match the 
Destination: header.
[...]

That sounds fine - I'll be happy to help in any way I can (I have a server 
setup that can easily reproduce the problem as well)

Has there ever been any dicussion of opening up an end-user interface to
header manipulation via regex, etc. through the configuration file?  
Maybe this sort of thing could be handled there....  (of course, that
might add complication as there will need to be "environment variables",
etc. to reference the actual backend)

- -jason



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Re: Release
Andreas Roedl <andreas.roedl(at)native-instruments.de>
2003-09-23 17:10:51 [ FULL ]
Hello!

Am Montag, 22. September 2003 14:40 schrieb Robert Segall:[...]

I spent some time to figure out that the syslog level for the request logging 
has changed from LOG_NOTICE to LOG_INFO. There should be a more detailed 
Changelog in the source tree where at least those changes should be listed.

What happened to the CVS/RCS? Its not easy to find out which version I'm 
currently running. The "rcs_id" in pound.c is from 2003/04/24. I'm 
downloading pound-current from time to time and make a "diff -Nur" to the 
previous download to keep track of the changes.

However: The current pound-current runs since a few hours and seems to be 
stable, but I have to wait for the rush hour at 6 pm.


Andi[...]

Re: Release
Robert Segall <roseg(at)apsis.ch>
2003-09-23 17:29:23 [ FULL ]
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 17:10, Andreas Roedl wrote:[...]

Thanks for the info Andi.

As you can see we use RCS for the "official" releases, but the changes in 
-current are not normally checked-in - we try to keep the RCS in sync with 
the release number.

The LOG_INFO was used to separate between normal log messages and problems, 
in the same way that we now separate between stdout/stderr if you don't use 
syslog (for those of us who use the Bernstein daemontools).

I'll try to get more detailed descriptions in the CHANGELOG in the future 
(but remember most programmers consider documentation to be "cruel and 
unusual punishment").[...]

Re: Release
Robert Segall <roseg(at)bluewin.ch>
2003-09-23 17:45:05 [ FULL ]
On Monday 22 September 2003 20:09, Jason Vasquez wrote:[...]

Thanks for the offer. We'll take that up after 1.5. The problem is 
complicated by the fact that, unlike Location rewriting, Destination has to 
be changed in the request rather than the response.[...]

Re: Release
Roland <list-pound(at)openrbl.org>
2003-09-23 18:51:47 [ FULL ]
--On Dienstag, 23. September 2003 17:45 +0200 Robert Segall
<roseg(at)bluewin.ch> wrote:
[...]

Does Pound rewrite the Location-header in 301/302-responses ?

I had some weird results with -current some weeks ago.
After a 302 to another file within the same domain the browser
got redirected to the ip-address and and port of the backend.

Switching back to 1.4 solved the problem.

Roland

Re: Release
Robert Segall <roseg(at)apsis.ch>
2003-09-24 14:28:14 [ FULL ]
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 18:51, Roland wrote:[...]

Pound-current does Location rewriting.

Specifically, if a back-end responds with a redirect (codes 301, 302, 303 or 
307) and the URL in the Location is one that Pound knows about (one of the 
back-ends or Pound itself) Pound will change the protocol and server part to 
point to itself. This is useful for:

- older servers that ignore the Host field in the request when generating a 
redirect location
- servers that prepend http:// instead of https:// (when Pound is doing HTTPS 
but talks HTTP to the back-end)

Thus, "Location: http://1.2.3.6/xxx" would be
changed to "Location: 
https://1.2.3.4/xxx" if 1.2.3.6 is a back-end
and Pound listens on 
1.2.3.4/HTTPS. Same applies to "Location: http://1.2.3.4/xxx", but not to 
"Location: http://1.2.3.4:8080/xxx" or
"Location: http://1.2.3.9/xxx".

I would very much appreciate if you could give it another try - this is the 
feature I have least confidence in in the new version. Please let me know how 
it works for you.[...]

Re: Release
Andreas Roedl <andreas.roedl(at)native-instruments.de>
2003-09-24 16:58:12 [ FULL ]
Hello!

Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 17:29 schrieb Robert Segall:[...]

I had to switch back to a version prior 08.09.2003 (I'll check the "version" 
later). The latest "current" isn't usable.

Since I installed the latest pound yesterday, our visitors are no longer able 
to download our software demos (up to 40 MB). It _always_ stops after a 
while. Some people are able to download only 1 MB others can download up to 
10 MB. Now - as I said before - I switched back to a previous version and it 
all works well.

Both pound versions were compiled the same way (static) with exactly the same 
libraries and configure options.

No way to release 1.5, I'd say.


Andi[...]

Re: Release
Robert Segall <roseg(at)apsis.ch>
2003-09-25 12:34:40 [ FULL ]
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 16:58, Andreas Roedl wrote:[...]

Sorry to hear about it Andi. I just tested it again and I can't see _any_ 
problems here. Setup:

- Apache with files over 70MB
- Pound-current (version from September 16th).
- Siege simulating 5-15 clients, continuously downloading the files.

I've ran this for quite a while and it seems OK. Tried it with several 
browsers as well - still no problems. Repeated with *BSD instead of Linux - 
runs great. I'm not really sure where to go from here - please help me a
bit.[...]

Re: Release
Andreas Roedl <andreas.roedl(at)native-instruments.de>
2003-09-25 16:53:37 [ FULL ]
Hello!

Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2003 12:34 schrieb Robert Segall:[...]
[...]

I can't reproduce it that way. Whenever I install a new version of pound I'm 
testing it almost the same way as you described. I haven't had any problems, 
but as soon as the new Pound is installed in the production environment, 
virtually nobody is able to download bigger files.

I think it is something like a timeout. Its impossible to simulate "real world 
traffic" with siege, because even if you run the test over the LAN, the 
download of 70 MB takes about 10 seconds.

All I can say is that the newer versions of pound aren't working on our 
production system.

Robert, I'll send you the patch file (diff between the latest working and 
current version of pound).


Andi[...]

Re: Release
Andreas Roedl <andreas.roedl(at)native-instruments.de>
2003-09-26 02:31:56 [ FULL ]
Hello!

Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2003 16:53 schrieb Andreas Roedl:[...]

The _very_ latest version of Pound (20030925) works again. Robert fixed it in 
less than three hours (1 line added, 4 lines changed and 40 _deleted_)! :-)


Andi
PS: You're invited to download our demos.[...]

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